Caroline Kennedy could be Barack Obama's V.P.

Cross-posted in the AfroSpear.

I think that Caroline Kennedy could be Barack Obama's vice presidential running mate. She is on Obama's V.P. selection committee. The most important Kennedy's were among the most high-profile early Democratic supporters of Barack Obama (relative to others who only supported him when he became inevitable).

And now we read in the Washington Post that:

   

The opening Monday night of the convention is expected to honor Sen. Edward M. Kennedy and his family. WaPost

Now, if Obama selected Caroline, then that first day of celebration becomes a celebration of his choice of running-mate.

Caroline Kennedy would come with last-name recognition above that of any of the alternatives, help unite the Democratic women who supported Hillary Clinton, and piss of the Republicans (which is inevitable in any case, unless he selects Sam Nunn, whom the Republicans like because he is just like Joe Lieberman at heart).

I confess that I dreamed about this last night. In the dream, I happened to run into one of the Kennedy men somewhere and I asked him about this. He told me that the Kennedy's ability to raise money would be phenomenal and their name was a household brand.

George W. Bush selected the head of his V.P. selection effort as his vice presidential candidate, right? It is some precedent, even if a terrible one to remember.

US News says,
[I]f you want a really juicy rumor, consider who some key Democrats want for Sen. Barack Obama's No. 2: his veep search aide, Caroline Kennedy. While many Democrats we talked to dissed the idea of a two-minority ticket, others feel it would boost the generational shift Obama represents. And, adds one fan of the idea: "Caroline is the good Kennedy." There's recent precedent. President Bush picked his vice presidential search team leader, Dick Cheney.

Just remember this: All of these reflections began late at night and ended before I had the benefit of my morning coffee. And I'm only raising this specter in order to have the 2% chance of saying, "I told you so," when Obama's running-mate is announced.  I want to say, "I saw that coming."

Author's note: After I wrote this and read people's comments, I've Googled the Kennedy on Obama's V.P. research team and discovered that I'm not the only one who thinks she could end up being the V.P. choice. To me, Barack Obama has shown amazing talent and ability to far, so I'm going to support whatever he decides to do, but I certainly hope he doesn't decide to do something like pick a Lloyd Bentsen/Joe Lieberman conservative white man. Remember, Mike Dukakis and Al Gore tried that, and it didn't work out so well.That dirty leotard Lieberman went on national television to say that Florida should count the votes of US armed servicepeople overseas (most of whom supported Bush) even if the ballots weren't cast in compliance with Florida voting laws. As long as Obama doesn't choose someone like that, I imagine his decision will turn out to have been a good one.

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Re: Kathleen Kennedy Townsend (2.00 / 4)

About as likely as McCain picking Michael Steele. There's no way they're going for someone as obscure as a former Lt. Governor of Maryland (who can't win election in their own right).


by johnny longtorso on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 08:03:49 AM EST

Re: Kathleen Kennedy Townsend (2.00 / 5)

You're dreaming.  There's zero chance that Obama would pick a former Lt. Gov, no matter what her last name is.
And this little gem, by the way, is both nuts and offensive:

I reason, however, that that's a history that most Blacks are unfamiliar with, and no Blacks are going to refuse to vote for Obama because of his running mate, unless perhaps his running mate were Hillary Clinton, in which case many Blacks would lose respect for Obama, and that would cause reduced turnout, which might hand the election to John McCain on a silver platter.

Let go of your Hilary hate - the primaries are over. Don't assign your Clinton issues to the rest of the black population, including me.


No Way. No How. No McCain.
by Denny Crane on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 08:25:53 AM EST

Re: Kathleen Kennedy Townsend (none / 0)

And I somehow missed the fact that you've got the wrong Kennedy anyway. Not sure how I missed that little nugget, but it becomes even more clear that this came to you in a dream.


No Way. No How. No McCain.
by Denny Crane on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:30:46 AM EST
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Confusing her with Caroline (2.00 / 2)

Kathleen Kennedy Townsend isn't on Obama's vice presidential selection committee; that's her cousin, Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg. Also, unlike Caroline, Ted and some other Kennedys, Kathleen was not an early supporter of Obama; she supported Clinton (though she started acknowledging Obama's inevitability before the race was over).

Of course, arguably, having been a Clinton supporter makes her a better potential vp candidate. Also, she has some federal experience as a deputy assistant attorney general.

But I agree with the commenter above me that she doesn't have the high-level experience or proven ability to win elections.


by slvn on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 08:37:17 AM EST

Re: Confusing her with Caroline (none / 0)

unproven electability??   she LOST in a bluer than blue state after having been the Lt. Gov!! not a very convincing resume despite her other qualifications.


by swissffun on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 12:55:50 PM EST
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Re: Confusing her with Caroline (none / 0)

I know--unproven electability was a bit of a euphemism, but I think we're saying the same thing.


by slvn on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 01:20:18 PM EST
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I can't remember which network I heard it on... (none / 0)

but one of the talking heads said that they had word from the Obama campaign that the vice presidential pick would not be a surprise to anyone. I guess that means - whoever it is - the name is one that's already flying around.


by Liberal Monk on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 08:45:41 AM EST

No big task (none / 0)

It makes it easier to hold back the surprise when the media has speculated at length about well over a half dozen possible candidates.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 01:03:49 PM EST
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Re: Kathleen Kennedy Townsend (2.00 / 2)

She's a terrible campaigner. It takes real talent for a Democrat to lose a state-wide race in Maryland.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:00:39 AM EST

Re: Kathleen Kennedy Townsend could be Barack Obam (none / 0)

Maybe a 1000 to 1 shot, if that.


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:03:37 AM EST

Yikes (2.00 / 1)

I was there on the ground in 2002 when she was running for governor and saw the disaster up close and personal. You don't take one of the worst campaigners that lost Maryland and stick her on the presidential ticket. The only reason she was LG is because she was on someone else's ticket. It's not that big of a position in Maryland anyways.


by applejackking on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:21:12 AM EST

I think you have (2.00 / 1)

your kennedy's mixed up.

RFK's clan of children all endorsed Hillary. Kathleen and her brother RFK Jr. both endorsed Hillary.

The Kennedy Clan was split - RFK's group v. JFKs and Teddy.

Same thing happened with Jesse Jackson's family. They split their support.


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:35:31 AM EST

not entirely... (none / 0)

Twasn't split down the RFK/JFK line. Ethel, Max and Rory Kennedy all sided with Obama.

Must have made for fascinating reunion dinner table conversations.


by Casuist on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 12:10:14 PM EST
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"Kathleen Kennedy Townsend"? (2.00 / 1)

No. Way.


by SocialDem on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:36:34 AM EST

Re: Kathleen Kennedy Townsend...woot!...NOT. (2.00 / 2)

LOL...that's was funny.  A great joke to start the day in the office.

Thanks!


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:22:56 AM EST

how was her campaign for governor? (2.00 / 2)

I was in Maryland when KKT ran for governor.

She ran a campaign that could be charitably called disappointing.


Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 11:26:56 AM EST

Re: how was her campaign for governor? (none / 0)

Agreed....she lost to Bob Ehrlich, thus giving the Maryland Governor's Office to the Republicans for the first time since Spiro Agnew left (1968). Even Paris Glendenning managed to eek out a victory in the Republican landslide of 1994.


by BJJ Fighter on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 12:06:39 PM EST
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Re: Caroline Kennedy could be Barack Obama's V.P. (none / 0)

I think that the original poster is correct in that the Kennedys will be huge assets in fundraising, firing up the base, consolidating the Catholic vote,  and (especially int eh case of Kathleen Townsend Kennedy, a Clinton supporter) reaching out to women who supported Hillary Clinton. But they can do ll those things without a Vice Presidential nomination, which would be framed by Republicans and pundits as evidence that the Democrats really are offering a Celebrity ticket.

Assuming that Obama wins, I bet Caroline will have a role in the White House counsel's office or as a senior adviser to the president, Kathleen could be an assistant attorney general, and RFK, Jr. could have a senior Justice Department role or head the EPA.


by slvn on Sat Aug 09, 2008 at 12:02:03 PM EST

Re: Caroline Kennedy could be Barack Obama's V.P. (none / 0)

I think that the original poster is correct in that the Kennedys will be huge assets in fundraising, firing up the base, consolidating the Catholic vote,  and (especially int eh case of Kathleen Townsend Kennedy, a Clinton supporter) reaching out to women who supported Hillary Clinton. But they can do ll those things without a Vice Presidential nomination, which would be framed by Republicans and pundits as evidence that the Democrats really are offering a Celebrity ticket.

Assuming that Obama wins, I bet Caroline will have a role in the White House counsel's office or as a senior adviser to the president, Kathleen could be an assistant attorney general, and RFK, Jr. could have a senior Justice Department role or head the EPA.


by slvn on Sat Aug 09, 2008 at 12:37:20 PM EST


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